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As a person who regularly reads English translations of Japanese writings, based on Chinese literature, with the original language being orally conveyed Pali, doing this sort of comparative analysis quickly became a habit. My better half always comments, how many copies of _______ ( fill in the blank with Heart Sutra, Diamond Sutra, Blue Cliff Record, etc…)do you really need?

Also being a patent attorney you quickly realize that one must engineer the language to achieve the desired result. Does a comma go here? What does that convey? What does that remove? Which result is more desirable? What happens if I use “ adjacent to” v. “Beside” v “on top of” or even “ functionally arranged in proximity to” . And that’s writing for highly technical reasons.

I always get a good laugh after seeing an English text document that I have carefully crafted translated into, for example Chinese or Finnish, or Russian, only to be translated back into English. It reminds me of the frailty of words and language.

Now add the layer of complexity called poetry and oral conveyance tradition in which the sound and cadence of the words affects not only the objective meaning, but also conveys the feeling / emotion / essence of the words. Not to mention embellishing changes by each story teller.

Take any English poetry and do the multiple translation game with Google Translate. Say take the first stanza of some work you may know by Robert Frost….

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,

And sorry I could not travel both

And be one traveler, long I stood

And looked down one as far as I could

To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Notice the rhythm and cadence and word play. The feeling it conveys, the picture it paints in your mind.

Now translate to Armenian then to French and then back to English. This is what I got from Google translate….

Two roads diverged in the yellow wood,

And I regretted not being able to take them both.

Being a traveler among others, I stood motionless for a long time.

And my gaze wandered as far as it could reach,

Where it disappeared into the undergrowth

Notice the rhythm and sound and feeling has shifted. Yet the objective story is the same.

My point being, all translations are really adaptations from the original language to the next language. This is true even in highly precise and technical language. Given the oral tradition and poetry that created and eventually conveyed the Odyssey to us, and the embellishments each story teller may have added to it along the way, debating the fidelity to the original, IMHO, devolves into a literary argument akin to a theological argument about angels on a pin head.

Perhaps this most recent cinemagraphic telling of the Odyssey story (and its popularity) is more a reflection upon our current times and the story teller than we would like to openly admit.

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German has a fixed order of 'W-questions.' When interpreting on the fly (which I've done informally) the original order sometimes can come through into English. When translating in writing (which I've done for hire,) a more natural rearrangement can be achieved. The use of clauses still offers some ability to retain the original emphasis -- as Herr Roth has done here.

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